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I got this email to rideflightline email inbox. Like I said over here, I am going to POST EVERTHING…even if it isn’t the opinion of RideFlightLine.com. It’s the right thing to do to keep you all informed.
Please post this anonymously:
The Center for Natural Lands Management is a private company with the designation of Non profit (Don’t let the word non profit fool you. These guys get paid plenty to manage our public lands). This company makes money off developers. Every time a developer has to mitigate (the in vogue word for “pay to screw up nature”) they find a company like CNLM to manage the left over land they had to give up for a development project. The more land that gets developed, the more money the guys at CNLM make. These guys are not government officials. They work for a private company with a vested interest in more development. They have zero authority over us. DO NOT TRUST THEM! To act like they are saving nature is a joke. CNLM’s main function is to aid the development industry to look good as they pave over every possible square inch of our back country. CNLM is not a conservationist or environmentalist group. The best strategy to save 10% of the original Flightline is to get CNLM off our public lands! That is probably quicker than the 2 year process of dealing with the government agencies to get this designated as some kind of miniature mountain bike park. CNLM is more of a policing agency than a real conservationist group. They like to fence off our public lands to keep us out. If mountain bikers use the land they are managing it makes them look bad because they are unable to say they are preserving land in its natural state. Believe me, they will not help us in our cause. Marcus and the CNLM are not our allies. DO NOT TRUST THEM!
Posted: November 29th, 2006 under Emails.
Comments: 4
Comments
Comment from sean
Time: November 30, 2006, 9:33 am
absolute truth and well said. these guys DO NOT work for or with us. Preserve Calavera is a more reliable partner and are actually looking to protect the interests of both the people and nature. CNLM is an ambulance chaser who finds things to “protect”. we know who the true enemy is.
Comment from richard julien
Time: November 30, 2006, 10:46 pm
Very interesting post. But how do you propose that cnlm be taken out of the equation? I am all ears when it comes to having to wait years to be able to ride close to home. Plus that is chicken you know what to post anonymously. You have an opinoin and might be able to help so why be anonymous? I have posted unpopular things and heard about it. But I have stayed involved. Do you know things the rest of don’t know? How do we speak to you ? Or do we wait until you grace us with another post?
Comment from Mad Biker
Time: December 1, 2006, 1:37 pm
I suppose we could as a group petition the county to remove them as stewards of our public lands. We could site their most likely illegal methods of closing off coyote and deer trails that have existed for over 40 years. I know these trails have been here at least that long because I have friends who rode horses here that long ago. I suspect some of the trails date back to native times since they lead to year round water. I think there is a midden and ancient camp site on one of the trails CNLM is disturbing. CNLM probably did not do an environmental impact study before impacting the area. Lets use the laws they are threatening us with to give them the boot! We should also find out who is paying CNLM to manage this land. If it is county money, we could save all that tax payer money and leave the land alone.
Comment from Kevin Skjei
Time: December 31, 2006, 1:00 pm
This is baloney.
I’ve worked with CNLM and know them well. They are the best in the business, and anyone in the scientific conservation industry knows it, including the cities and counties, thats why they are chosen to manage land over everyone else. Thats a fact you can easily check with anyone who knows what they are talking about.
I have a bigger problem with this website, in that you are allowing people to post baseless allegations that border on slander. Thats not free speech, thats cowardice.
If you are claiming to represent all MTBers in Carlsbad, you need to step up to a higher level of responsibility and exercise some discretion. Here is why:
1. Your excuse for posting everything because thats the only way people can get their feelings known is a cop out. As you correctly noted there are many other local forums where people can vent anonymously.
2. If you are trying to represent the MTB community here and create credibility and trust for that group to work in partnership with others, then you need to show more responsibility and exercise some editorial control on what you represent as the voice of the group.
The fact is that people judge one another and groups based on what they read, and right now, this looks like a cheap shot, that demeans this blog and what you are trying to do in general.
3. It also makes the activist group they recommend look bad. Thats not fair to them.
No one wins when you allow this kind of thing, Quinn and Stefan, and in my blunt opinion, you are flat out wrong to allow it.
I notice you refer to “moderation on comments” elsewhere.
So which is it - are you “publishing everything” or selectively allowing comments you like?
As a local citizen, neighbor, dog walker, hiker, rider and conservationist with hundreds of volunteer hours put into this land, I’m the kind of person you want to gather to you and this effort.
Right now I suspect there are a lot of good people who are standing back, like me, to see what this turns into.
I’d like you and this blog to be a better example of what the MTB community can do, if it pulls together.
If you need mature advice on how to communicate a position and represent the community, I recommend you contact SDMBA and follow their lead.
You might also consider reformatting this blog into a website - this is a very confusing arrangement and I notice some of the material referenced is hard to find.
Feel free to post here or contact me at the numbers below. Pardon my bluntness, but it seems the time is right now to square this away if you want to continue the momentum in a positive way. I’m happy to help you more if you like.
Kevin Skjei
kskjei@sbcglobal.net
760-712-2590
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